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The 'IN CONVERSATION' series portray prominent innovation scholars of the day in the form of intellectual-biographical interviews. The second epizode features Mariana Mazzucato in a deep conversation with Giovanni Dosi

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08 Feb 2022, 1:30 pm – 3:00 pm GMT



About the Event

About the Event

The IN CONVERSATION series portrays prominent innovation scholars of the day in the form of intellectual-biographical interviews with other senior scholars.

In the SECOND event MARIANA MAZZUCATO will be interviewed by GIOVANNI DOSI (on 08 FEBRUARY, 2022). The event will be chaired by NANDITHA MATHEW

Structure of the program (1hour & 30 minutes split up as follows)

Brief intro to the program and introducing Mariana Mazzucato and Giovanni Dosi (Nanditha) 5 minutes

i. Introductory remarks by Giovanni Dosi (5 minutes) followed by a conversation between them as follows

ii. Formative years and major influences - (10 minutes)

iii. Contributions, Critique and weakness, Current work & future course - (35 minutes): starting from the important contributions of Mariana, evolving towards a critical evaluation of her work. Then moving on to discussions on what next given the changing circumstances, how the theoretical contributions are relevant in current circumstances etc. the speakers can shape it the way they want it to be! It is a platform to convey what they want future generations to take from Mariana and how they can further develop standing on the strong base that was created.

iv. Comment on Status of Innovation Economics and what next? - (10 minutes)


v. Discussion (30 minutes hour): For the 1 hour discussion a panel of scholars will ask questions or make comments on Mariana's work. After Mariana's response to them the forum will be open for questions from the general audience.

Brief Biodata of the speakers

Mariana Mazzucato (PhD) is Professor in the Economics of Innovation and Public Value at University College London (UCL), where she is Founding Director of the UCL Institute for Innovation & Public Purpose (IIPP). She received her BA from Tufts University and her MA and PhD from the Graduate Faculty of the New School for Social Research. Her previous posts include the RM Phillips Professorial Chair at the Science Policy Research Unit (SPRU) at Sussex University. She is a selected fellow of the UK’s Academy of Social Sciences (FAcSS) and of the Italian National Science Academy (Lincei).

She is winner of international prizes including the Grande Ufficiale Ordine al Merito della Repubblica Italiana in 2021, Italy's highest civilian honour, the 2020 John von Neumann Award, the 2019 All European Academies Madame de Staël Prize for Cultural Values, and the 2018 Leontief Prize for Advancing the Frontiers of Economic Thought. She was named as one of the '3 most important thinkers about innovation' by The New Republic, one of the 50 most creative people in business in 2020 by Fast Company, and one of the 25 leaders shaping the future of capitalism by WIRED.

She is the author of three highly-acclaimed books: The Entrepreneurial State: debunking public vs. private sector myths (2013) which investigates the critical role the state plays in driving growth; The Value of Everything: making and taking in the global economy (2018) which looks at how value creation needs to be rewarded over value extraction; and the newly released Mission Economy: a moonshot guide to changing capitalism (2021).

She advises policy makers around the world on innovation-led inclusive and sustainable growth. Her current roles include being Chair of the World Health Organization's Council on the Economics of Health for All and a member of the Scottish Government’s Council of Economic Advisors, the South African President’s Economic Advisory Council, the OECD Secretary General’s Advisory Group on a New Growth Narrative, the UN High Level Advisory Board for Economic and Social Affairs, Argentina’s Economic and Social Council, Vinnova’s Advisory Panel in Sweden, and Norway’s Research Council. Previously, through her role as Special Advisor for the EC Commissioner for Research, Science and Innovation (2017-2019), she authored the high-impact report on Mission-Oriented Research & Innovation in the European Union, turning “missions” into a crucial new instrument in the European Commission’s Horizon innovation programme.

Giovanni Dosi is professor of economics at the Institute of Economics, Scuola Superiore Sant'Anna, Pisa. He also serves as co-director of the ‘Industrial Policy’ and ‘Intellectual Property Rights’ task forces at the Initiative for Policy Dialogue at Columbia University. Additionally, Professor Dosi is a continental Europe editor of the journal Industrial and Corporate Change. He is included in the ISI Highly Cited Research list, denoting those who made fundamental contributions to the advancement of science and technology, and is a corresponding member of the Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei, the first academy of sciences in Italy.

In 2016, he received the Wiley TIM Distinguished Scholar Award by the Technology and Innovation Management Division of the American Academy of Management.

A selection of his works has been published in two volumes: Innovation, Organization and Economic Dynamics. Selected Essays (2000), and Economic Organization, Industrial Dynamics and Development: Selected Essays (2012) both published by Edward Elgar.

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Nanditha Mathew is a Researcher with UNU-MERIT. She obtained her PhD in Economics from the University of Pisa in 2016. Before joining UNU-MERIT, she was a Post-doctoral fellow at the Sant'Anna School of Advanced Studies in Pisa and at the National Research Council (CNR) of Italy (in Florence). In the past years, Nanditha has done consulting work for the Asian Development Bank (ADB), United Nations Economic Commission for Latin America and the CarHer research interests focus broadly on the microeconomics of innovation and development, in detail, on firm-level R&D investment, firm performance, strategy, and innovation policy. In June 2017, Nanditha won the International Schumpeter Society (ISS) Prize for the best paper presented at the EMAEE Conference in Strasbourg, for her work on “First Movers vs Fast Followers: Who performs better?". Some of her works have been published in international peer-reviewed journals such as the Research Policy, Industrial and Corporate Change and Journal of Evolutionary Economics.ibbean (UN-ECLAC) and MEFOP in Rome.

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